Dragana Curovic, aged 60
Social Project Leader, Sällbo Housing Experiment Interviewed in Helsingborg, Sweden on June 13, 2024

The story of how Sällbo came into being is fascinating. Does it go to the core of the Swedish mindset— that everyone should be able to live independently for as long as possible, no matter their circumstances?

In Sweden we expect very high standards of living. Almost every municipality in the country has its own public housing company owned by the City Council. Here in Helsingborg, our municipal housing company is called Helsingborgshemand we are expected to find accommodation for every kind of person— not just public housing, but luxury accommodation, aged care accommodation, housing for the disabled, the very elderly, students and so on.

The story of Sällbo actually starts in the 90’s, when we could see that the number of elderly people in Sweden was about to explode. And so we invented the safety home as an option for people over 70 who wanted to stay living independently but were beginning to need a little help. We called them safety homes because they were apartment buildings we had purchased and refurbished to include communal kitchens and living areas. And into each building we put a ‘host,’ someone who is employed full-time to take care of the needs of everyone in the building— from arranging social activities, to preventing residents from becoming isolated, to solving any problems that crop up between residents.   

How popular were these safety homes and did the elderly see them as a much more favourable alternative to aged care?

Safety homes became so in demand we had long waitlists to rent an apartment in one of our buildings. In 2013, we added another apartment complex to our stable— a four-storey building constructed in 1969. Over the next two years we created 51 two-room apartments with shared kitchens, dining and activity rooms on each floor. On the ground floor, we built barbecue areas and a large common room. We called it Sällbo, the Swedish for ‘companionship’ (sällskap) and ‘living’ (bo).  

And then in October 2015, Sweden threw open its borders to refugees from the Syrian crisis. Europe was in chaos. Sweden agreed to take in every person seeking asylum from Syria and Afghanistan, but not even our Government knew how it would house so many desperate people.

So they came to you?

Yes. I had been working as an interpreter during the Balkan Wars and I had learnt much about the terrible isolation experienced by refugees trying to start new lives in new countries. Coincidentally, I had come to Sweden myself from Yugoslavia when I was 18 with no family here and no social stability— so I knew what that felt like. And here in Helsingborg, we had a newly refurbished building with 51 empty apartments. So Helsingborgshem agreed to take in some of the unaccompanied young Syrian and Afghani refugees, most of whom were minors, and mostly boys, often two brothers. They were the eldest sons of families terrified they’d be killed or abducted by the Taliban and so these families told their sons to flee, to find their way to safety somewhere else in the world. Sweden became their lifeline. Most of them had survived very dangerous journeys out of Afghanistan into Iran, or from Syria into Turkey, and then they travelled through Greece and up into Sweden.

How on earth do you keep a bunch of traumatised 15 and 16 year old boys safe in a foreign country where they don’t speak the language and know no-one?

Yes. That was my challenge. So we rented the bottom two floors of the Sällbo apartment building to the refugee boys and the top two floors to the elderly as safety homes. And over the next three years, Sällbo became the biggest ‘support’ home for refugee youngsters in all of Sweden. But there was a worrying problem: those young boys had come to Sweden as a last resort. They were very afraid. They couldn’t sleep at night and so they stayed up late and smoked cigarettes and the fire alarms kept going off. Every second night we’d have to evacuate the building in a suburb populated by a lot of elderly native Swedes and it became a very negative news story. At Helsingborgshem, we also thought it might not be safe for the elderly to live above so many youngsters. You can’t have very frail people being evacuated in the middle of the night. And so the City said to us, ‘For goodness sake, solve this problem,’ and it was dumped in my lap.

Did it feel like an impossible task to create some sort of social stability between two such disparate groups of people?

Everything seems impossible until it’s done. I came up with the idea of putting them together on the same floor, and the City said, ‘No, too dangerous.’ Then I said, ‘Well, not if we have more elderly people than refugees. That way they can get to know those young boys one- on-one. The elderly would feel safer because there’d be someone young and capable on their floor, and the boys would know the old ones would care about their welfare in return.’ I thought that maybe these youngsters would adopt the elderly people on their floor as their new Swedish family. Maybe they’d start to rely on each other? The elderly residents could teach the young ones Swedish and show them how to cook Swedish food, and the boys could help the elderly with chores and teach them how to better use their technology.

And the City of Helsingborg finally agreed to let you try this experiment?

No. (Laughs). They still weren’t convinced. And so I tried again and I told the City: ‘Look. We know the elderly in this country are very alone and lonely and they need people around. They also feel excluded from modern Swedish life and its technology, so they alienate themselves further by staying inside their ‘bubble of old age’. And we have this group of very scared, lonely and alienated young refugees who also feel excluded from Swedish culture and language. These two groups are experiencing the same severe isolation.   

And was the City convinced?

Well, not really (smiles). Everyone said it was too controversial. That it wouldn’t work. That it would quite possibly be a disaster and they couldn’t risk another bad news story. And so I had to make my plan foolproof. I decided the only way to do that was to introduce a third group to the mix: some non-Swedish migrant families who had already assimilated, who were already speaking Swedish and working and sending their kids to school, to show both the elderly and the youngsters that these migrant families now felt ‘Swedish’ -  they were no longer socially excluded or alone. And I also told the City that I would handpick every resident moving into Sällbo— I would interview the candidates personally. And the amazing thing was, people who wanted to be part of this radical new multi-generational living experiment joined a waitlist. A long waitlist! And when that happened I said to the City: ‘OK, I think we’re ready to do this. We’ll give it two years and if it’s not working by then, we’ll quit and pretend it never happened.’ And the City finally gave me the green light and said ‘Off you go. But make it work.’

How difficult was it to choose the ‘right’ people to begin this living experiment?

Well, I made it a bit harder for myself in the selection process because I thought, ‘Why not choose people who are the most different from each other: different in age, education, social status, personality, attitude, work, life experience. That had never been done before— we dared to throw the most different kinds of people together and say, ‘Hey – we have faith in you to make this work.’ We asked the same three questions to every person during their final interview:  

Why do you want to come here?
What are your expectations?
What are you ready to give back?

In interviews that went for over an hour in some cases, people gave us the most interesting answers. And so in 2019, we chose our 51 residents: 60-percent elderly and 40-percent refugee. We selected 31 people aged over 70 and 20 people who were refugees and migrants. Of those, half  were young boys who’d come to Sweden as unaccompanied minors and were now aged between 18-25. And the other half were migrants— with or without families— who’d established themselves in Swedish society and had learned to speak good Swedish. And across all the 51 new residents of Sällbo, we ticked every kind of subset: we selected couples, young families, singles, extroverts, introverts, people working, people studying, elderly people from former safety houses, elderly people who moved to Sällbo from their lifelong home…

And everyone at Sällbo has exactly the same amenities?

Yes. And let’s talk about that. In Sweden we have a saying ‘alike children play best.’ We knew at Sällbo, everyone had to be equal. Don’t forget some of the elderly had come from big homes of more than 300m2 in the best part of town and some of the refugees had come from poverty — single rooms in family billet arrangements. Suddenly, everyone was living in very small 2-bedroom apartments with large common spaces. Sällbo threw together people who would never normally meet in real life: rich and poor, young and old, educated and non-educated, all living in very close quarters.  That’s why it was so important to have lots of big spaces for communal living in the building. And why everyone in the building needed to agree on what they wanted to have in those communal living areas because they were going to spend a lot of time together there.  

And you also made rules about how much time per week they needed to spend together?

Yes. We got even bolder! How do you encourage people to socialise? Just because you’re living in the same building doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to become friends, right? And so we said, ‘We want you to sign a contract agreeing to spend at least two hours a week with your neighbours. We won’t police it, but we expect you to eat a meal together, or watch tv together, or have a BBQ together. And during those couple of hours you spend together, you can also decide what you need and want in this building.’ And the first thing everyone wanted was a pool. The second thing was a bowling hall. And the third was a spa. And the host— the person we employed full-time to make sure everything was working properly and harmoniously for everyone living at Sällbo— the host said to them, ‘Well, Helsingborgshem can’t foot the bill for all these things, so how much more rent are you prepared to pay to get them? And suddenly, the pool became a yoga room and the bowling hall became a foosball table. (we laugh).

Has there been any resistance from residents about having to spend that communal time together each week? 

Well, that is the marvellous thing about this housing experiment— the residents say the socialising is the best part of living at Sällbo. In the last four years, 99-percent of the residents have socialised far more than the required two hours a week, but we still have one person who keeps to himself. He is the grump, but he’s not an isolated grump or a lonely grump. He’s just a grump. And he is the result of how extreme I was in selecting tenants. This was an experiment and no experiment is 100-percent successful, but 99-percent is pretty good. And everyone in the building has taken this grump as a ‘challenge’, to see who can get him to come out of his shell (laughs).

So you have created a democracy in miniature. And in this democracy, who decides on the rules for how everyone can live?

We at Helsingborgshem have imposed three basic rules: no pets and no smoking in the common areas, and an agreement on how late can you watch telly in the common room. All the other rules are made by the residents at a monthly meeting, where the occupants of each of the 51 apartments, whether a couple or a single person— get one vote per apartment. If you are away for work or on holiday on the night of the monthly meeting, you get someone else to vote on your behalf.

And what about the host? How do you choose the host?

The host is in the house every day, but not all day — she has an office on the ground floor. Even though she doesn’t live there, she is always part of the group and everyone respects her opinion. Her role is to moderate. If there is conflict, she will mediate. I decided early on to have a woman as host. Part of my reasoning was that the youngsters might like having a host who felt a bit like a ‘mother figure’, seeing their mothers were far, far away. And because many of the youngsters had been quick to adopt the elderly gents in the building as ‘father’ figures so I didn’t need to worry about having a male mentor as a host.

It's been four years now since Sällbo opened its doors. What’s been the attrition rate?

Well so far, no-one has hated it, but some have found it too difficult to manage. So in the last four years, seven of the elderly have left the house and two have died. Four of the elderly residents moved out because their children went to live elsewhere and they followed them. And one man decided to leave Sällbo because he was sick. He said, ‘I know I could stay here and everyone would be so kind to me but I would feel like a burden and I should give someone else a chance.’

Among the youngsters – some have left to go to schools in other cities or have moved out to take jobs far away or to get married. We now have the first baby born at Sällbo! And we still have a waitlist. Those who are not successful apply again and again because they understand they might not be the right fit for the current group of residents but they might be perfect when some of the dynamics change.

You must feel relieved that your incredibly bold and revolutionary experiment is such a success story; not only have you created the housing model of the future but a cure for loneliness all at the same time?

It’s been a real social experiment (smiles), and of course it’s being studied very closely by countries all around the world. I like to spend about four hours a week in the building, just exploring how things are going, checking on the group dynamic, talking to the host about who’s doing what. We advertise any vacancies on our website. We currently have 20 people on the waitlist. I have a Swedish lady from the Cote d’Azur who’s so desperate to live at Sällbo she calls me once a month to check if there’s any movement. She has the income to afford an apartment but who knows if she’ll be the right fit? I hope that we have opened peoples’ eyes: that the elderly have learnt that refugees from other countries are not to be feared. This is my ultimate goal: to see social cohesion between different generations and different cultures living under the one roof. This is the answer to the loneliness experienced by the over 70s and the under 25s. Sällbo is proof this new way of living is the future.

Manfred Bacharach, aged 76
Former Council Manager, living at Sällbo since its inception in 2019
Interviewed on the ground floor on June 13, 2024

Why did you decide you wanted to live in a communal housing experiment?

Well, I’m divorced and I was living alone in an apartment I owned but I was lonely. My upstairs neighbour complained one day that she wanted me to stop whistling. That was the only thing she’d said to me in a year. I decided that when I grow older (chuckles), I want to live with other people in a community house, so I joined the waitlist for Sällbo even before it opened. It was exactly what I was looking for. I was lucky and became the first person who was given a contract to live here. I’m on the third floor in a tiny apartment of 49 square metres. I got rid of everything I owned: books, paintings, you name it. Now I just have my apartment and some storage in the basement. It’s the smallest place I’ve ever lived in but I have all the space I need.

What was it about you that made the project leader Dragana Curovic, choose you for Sällbo do you think?

I have no idea but I love living here. I really love it. The funny thing is, if you measure the time I spend with other people in the house and the time I spend alone, I spend far more time alone than I ever have, but I’m never lonely. I can have conversation anytime I want. My neighbours are like my family.

What has Sällbo taught you?

You know I moved in here thinking I was a clever person who knew so much and then I quickly realised that the things I knew were because I’d lived so long. The youngsters here, the refugee boys, they are so much cleverer than I am and we have such interesting discussions. On Thursday evenings I often talk with the two guys from Afghanistan on my floor. I trained both of them to get their driver’s licences when they first arrived here. I got such a new world view as we talked in the car. I felt so good being able to help them learn to drive. I’ll do odd jobs for people— put up lamps and shelves and such. In return, they bake for me. I like them and they like me. They are my friends. Not all of them, of course, but the ones I hit it off with. I have so much company if I need it. I enjoy life so much more now.

Are people curious about the way you live here?

Very curious. They want to know what it’s like to live in such a tiny apartment and socialise with other people from other rooms and what’s it like to live with the young people and with foreigners. People say, ‘Why would you want to live with a refugee?’ I tell them you need to be a certain kind of person. You must like other people. You must be interested in other people. Everyone says living at Sällbo suits me. But I know Dragana has chosen a few residents specifically because theydon’t like other people. Yet they’re the ones who now enjoy the company, even though they often don’t know how to handle it (snorts).

Have you changed since you came to live here?

I’m sure I have. People change very quickly when they come here. The barriers come down and they start to come out of themselves. It was Sonja the host who said to me, ‘Mafa, for you as an extrovert, it’s easy to socialise with everyone, but for people who have been very alone, just having a connection with one or two other people is an enormous first step.’ If there’s someone who is lonely at Sällbo I’d be very surprised. If there is, then that person would be lonely anywhere. Every time we all sit out here together by the BBQ, we agree that none of us ever wants to move from this place. We all love it. And yet it seems such a simple thing to create – to put people together. Some residents here are sick. Some have diseases. Some have fallen. I had a fall and broke my leg. One of the young guys came and helped me and called the ambulance. Here, if you haven’t been seen for a day, people start talking to each other asking, ‘Have you seen so-and-so?’ The young ones go to the host and say, ‘I haven’t seen Mafa for two days. Is he okay?’

Do you now believe inter-generational housing is a solution, not just for isolation in the elderly, but for the big increase in loneliness in the under 25s?  

Yes. I think so. We are a big family here. We take care of each other and we’re interested in each other. Not everybody likes everybody, but we accept and respect each other. We’ve rebuilt the old way of living— it’s precisely the way generations used to live and we have forgotten why it worked so well. It’s not rocket science. We have a very big problem with loneliness in Sweden, especially for young people. They’re on their devices and only looking inwards. Sällbo makes people look outwards. This kind of housing helps people feel they belong to the world.

Johanna Adsersen, aged 26
Career coach and Sällbo resident for one year
Interviewed June 13, 2024 in the common room

Why did you want to live at Sällbo?

I wanted to live here because when I left home at 19, I went to live in a dormitory in the city of Malmo— we were all students sharing a kitchen. I just loved having people close by around me, it was so comforting, because I’m the kind of person who needs to be around people. And then the pandemic hit and we were cooped up, the ten of us, and we became really close. And then some years later I moved here to Helsingborg for work and I tried to have interaction with my neighbours in my apartment building but there was nothing. I felt really alone. I saw an ad for Sällbo online and was intrigued by the concept. I applied, was called up for an interview and got my hopes up. Even after the first tour of Sällbo, I wanted to live here so badly. I fell in love with the concept straight away.

I find it incredible that at 26 years old, you were so keen to live with elderly people.

Oh, it took me a while to get used to the idea (laughs). In the beginning I couldn’t imagine how it would be— it did sound weird to be living with old people. I wondered how I’d have parties but I wanted to give it a go. I wrote a personal letter saying why I wanted to live here and then I waited for a vacancy and hoped and prayed I’d be the right person to get the vacant apartment.

What was it like when you first moved in?

You know, in an ordinary building in Sweden, if you have something to say, you go to the landlord and complain and people get upset. But here at Sällbo, we all respect each other’s opinions. We know the host is downstairs to help us with any problems. So the other day my neighbour knocked on my door to say, ‘Oh Johanna, I see you did your laundry but you forgot to clean the lint filter. Would you like me to show you how to do it?’ He was so sweet and helpful.

Do you feel like the older residents here look out for you?

Absolutely. I’ve had a rough year and I’ve been stressed and I told my old friend Mafa on my floor that I was struggling and he has been so lovely to talk to. To me this housing model seems so common sense. It’s such a simple formula for connection. When I tell my friends about Sällbo, they can’t believe this is the only building mixing the generations and cultures. Friends ask me how it works and their first question is always ‘Do you cook together?’ And I say, ‘No, it’s not a soup kitchen, but we often eat together.’ Some people are sceptical about Sällbo at first, but the more they find out, the more they want to live here too.  

Do you ever have weeks where you don’t feel like doing the two hours of socialising with other residents?

Of course, but I know I’ll always feel better afterwards. We mostly eat together on a Monday and that has just become habit. We started a youth night where we would play games and the elderly often come and join us. I also started a power point evening in the house because we have so many people here with so many life stories to tell. I am passionate about story telling and I love to hear everyone’s stories so I offered to help the residents create a power point about their life. We have removed a lot of the boundaries that exist in the outside world. I see people here as my family. And they appreciate me for who I am.

Could this concept work anywhere in the world do you think?

Yes. It could work anywhere. But the most important part of this concept is the interview process— you need the right mix of people to make it work. It’s not the building that’s been successful, it’s the people inside it. We have a lot of faith in Dragana— she chooses who our neighbours will be. I’ve learnt so much from my neighbours. I’ve learnt how to talk to people over 70. I’ve learnt how to talk to people who’ve come to Sweden with nothing but their clothes, who barely speak Swedish. I just love living here.

Sofie Sahlstedt, aged 79
Former disability manager, now living at Sällbo for 18 months
Interviewed on June 13, 2024 in her ground floor apartment

I’m the luckiest girl in this building. I have a garden!

(We laugh) How did you learn about Sällbo, Sophie?

I met a girl on the bus and she told me she lived at Sällbo, and the more she described it, the more I thought, ‘This is what I want!’ For me, it was very important to stay in contact with the young because we give each other things: ways of thinking, knowledge, perspective and the exchange of ideas. Put the young and the elderly together and they start discussing their experience of society and it’s very educational for both sides.

Is the reality of living at Sällbo different from how you imagined it would be?

Well, most of my time I am with the elderly people, of course, because the younger ones are at work or at university. But in the evenings we play cards, we eat together, we watch films together. I think I spend about 10-15 hours a week socialising with the others. The last place I lived in was a very nice apartment, but I didn’t really talk to anyone for virtually a whole year. Swedes are reserved by nature. Maybe it’s a cultural thing. I lived in Stockholm for two years when my daughter was little and I remember the woman next door to me was too scared to open her door, even to me. It was so sad. Even in a big city you can feel so alone.

Was your family supportive of your move into Sällbo?

When I told my son-in-law I wanted to live here, he said ‘Never! – that’s where all the immigrants are,’ but he has changed his mind after seeing how happy I am. I’ve got to know some of the refugee boys. I help the girl from Tunisia who has just had a baby. We Swedes can make it easier for these newcomers to start their new life in our country. I help them with their Swedish. They help me with any technology issues. It’s nice to be able to rely on each other. I gave an Afghani boy my spare boots. We were the same size. It felt good to be able to give him something he needed.

What does this model depend on for its success do you think?

I think it could work anywhere, but what you need are leaders with a clear vision. You need a very good host to keep an eye on things. And you need a project leader who’s not afraid to play God a little bit to make sure the mix of residents is right. Dragana, our inventor, is so good at selecting the right people for us. She knows when to say no and when to say yes. Of course there is conflict sometimes. There is disagreement. That’s why we have rules. You have to start with some good rules and sometimes you need to add new rules for when things happen you didn’t predict. I’ve learnt to treat everything outside my apartment door as ‘communal.’ That means the furniture, the lamps and equipment, the tables and chairs, the plates and cutlery, even the books in all the common spaces are to be looked after for the benefit of all.  

Do you believe one futuristic housing experiment can defeat all kinds of loneliness for all kinds of people?

I think this is a model for future community. Intergenerational living is the solution for the disintegration of society. Ask yourself. What is integration? The young refugee boys here aren’t friends with everyone in the building, but they have made a connection with one or two of us elderly people and for them, that is enough. Some people here are very social. Some— not so much. That’s fine by me. We are not a commune. We are a support network. And having a safety net helps people to feel secure. We are here for each other.

Isak Kauppinen, aged 26
Postman and Sällbo resident
Interviewed June 13, 2024

What are the character traits you bring to Sällbo?

As a postman, even my job is social. I learn the names of my customers and their habits. So it isn’t a big stretch for me to make friends with older people. I wanted to live with a wide group of people. My neighbours at Sällbo are very much like a family. They’re my tribe.

What makes Sällbo a uniquely Swedish concept?

This housing experiment is definitely a radical step from the norm in Sweden. And it is a uniquely Swedish solution to the problem of loneliness, which I see more and more in my job. The Swedes love order and structure and the way of life at Sällbo has lots of plans and schedules (laughs). Everywhere you look there is a schedule for all the activities we love doing together here.

Did you ever imagine you could have much in common with refugees from the Middle East?

No, but I love being with them. We hang out and talk in private. Some of them waited four years to get asylum. Just imagine being 15 years old and having to trek across Europe to get to somewhere safe and welcoming like Sweden. I have so much respect for them.

Is this a long-term housing solution for you?

Oh yes. I got married recently and my wife now lives here with me. Our wedding reception was at Sällbo and everyone was invited to come and celebrate.

Is Sällbo the housing model for the future, putting the ‘lonely old’ and the ‘lonely young’ together?

I think it’s a great solution for treating loneliness.  I think you need a certain composition of people to make it work – in other words, you need all sorts, but the project leader is very good at finding the right mix of people. We’re a real melting pot. But we’re family to each other.